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February 12, 2018 - 10:37 pm
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Just three more days away till we get informed that both sides need more time and we get the next new date for results.  I can’t wait.  

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fdu.1 said
Just three more days away till we get informed that both sides need more time and we get the next new date for results.  I can’t wait.    

Pretty sad isn’t it! A study that was supposed to be implemented almost 3 years ago is still seeing delays at every turn. Carriers working routes they can’t handle and donating all kinds of free OT to the USPS along with the 2080 problems this system has created for the rurals and we hear next to nothing from the people we pay to represent us. Now we have little choice but to again go through an antiquated mailcount system in another  vain attempt to get our routes evaluated correctly. Not much direction from the top, lacking leadership and definitely little communication. 

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Cangonow, GREAT POST!!!!!  You just summed up how I feel exactly.  We have been told to expect five new routes out of this next count but I think they are lying.  I’m still worried that I am going to go down even though it takes me over nine hours on a good day to do my 8.5 a day route.  On a bad day (normal day) I tell my wife to eat dinner without me.  This past Christmas was pure hades.  I thank God every day for my wife who took care of Christmas for me.  Asked a supervisor the other day what they have heard about the study and they told me that I need to ask the union.  So I ask the union and they tell me to check the website.  So I go check the website and they have info about hurricane harvey, the convention back in august and info on Christmas pay but zippo about the IE.  My union anniversary date is in august and I have told my wife that if my route does not go up a minimum of five hours before then then I am out the union. We will take that money and go to the mountains for a weekend getaway once a year.   

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fdu.1 — “I have told my wife that if my route does not go up a minimum of five hours before then then I am out the union.”

—  Careful what you wish for!!   If that “5 hours” takes you into true “overburdened” status ( over 57:36 territory ), stand by to have your route cut back.  Then you will need the money saved from getting out of the union to survive on.

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Cangonow — “Pretty sad isn’t it! A study that was supposed to be implemented almost 3 years ago..”

—  Actually it is worse than that.   The date of the “award” that specified implementation on 20 MAY 2015 was issued on 03 JUL 2012!

—  Per Arbitrator Clarke’s Appendix B:  The parties agree to proceed in good faith and in all due haste so that the revised Evaluated Compensation System will be implemented by May 20, 2015.

—  Must be the USPS and NRLCA have conflicting definitions of “good faith and in all due haste”.

—  Could be both are going with the “haste makes waste” saying.

—  And Arbitrator Clarke doesn’t seem concerned that his dead line has come and gone as well at the two parties giving themselves an extension to look over the Chairman’s recommendations.

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The Chairman still has his ( up to ) 90 days to put out a final decision.  And if word that the new system will be phased-in in 3-month increments and updated at the 6-month, 9-month and 1-year mark is true, the full implementation will be pushing 7 years from the “award” date.   The majority of grievances are settled in less time!

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I will tell you what is sad.  We rural carriers are carrying more parcels everyday than we did 3 or 4 years ago during Christmas for FREE.  Yet the PS loses more money even after getting all the free work.

Someone ain’t paying enough……… could it really be as Trump say’s?   Amazon ain’t paying enough.   

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February 13, 2018 - 3:16 pm
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Study???  What’s this “study” thing you’re talking about…  Confused

Oh… you mean that thing they mentioned a couple of contracts back… yeah, I think they put that on the shelf right next to “Load Leveling”…  Embarassed

Just another one of those things they hyped up and had high hopes for… but it just never really took off…  didn’t quite pan out…  Cry

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D-O-H-F-M — “I will tell you what is sad.  We rural carriers are carrying more parcels everyday than…”

—  I tell you what is even sadder.   Rural carriers ( probably ) carry more mail daily than city carriers, yet who gets the Level 6 pay.  ( hint — it isn’t the rural side! )

—  Granted the NRLCA tried for Level 6, but apparently forgot ( or didn’t know ) pay comparison had to be with a company in the private sector.

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February 13, 2018 - 6:59 pm
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Expect more delays around Feb 15th and MOU’s doing what ever the PO wants the ASSociation to do. I also heard thru a friend UPS is not allowing vacation days and to expect OT from Feb 24th thru March 9th. The diversion of last mile packages at its finest yet union claims mail and packages not being held back or diverted.

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Tooltime ( it’s been awhile ) — “I also heard thru a friend UPS is not allowing vacation days and to expect OT from Feb 24th thru March 9th.”

— Would be interesting if your friend could provide / produce something in the way of an email or UPS notice!

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Then they told two friends and so on…

Why do you think Christmas is actual time at the moment? Take away this season is your qualifying  parcel load the same for the rest of the year? Perhaps the IE results will factor in this time. Doubt it because it’s a nice bone to toss for now as a give away. They are aware of gift cards as the future. Hence with the IE count for all routes will be shifted in accordance with tax refund and gift card gifts time frame?

I have VAYCAY off, but not counting. Others in office with day(s) off plan to visit and observe. Good luck to those counting. 

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February 14, 2018 - 7:55 pm
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Strike up the band and get ready for the big parade… tomorrow, the fog will lift and the sun will shine as the light of day on this rumored “study” thing will illuminate us all… no more questions and no more ambiguities… we will have ALL of the answers to ALL of our question on this momentous day… Feb., 15, 2018… mark it on your calendar… Confused

If anybody believes any of that… I got a bridge in Brooklyn that I can sell you for a nice price…  Surprised

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D.B.Cooper said

If anybody believes any of that… I got a bridge in Brooklyn that I can sell you for a nice price…  Surprised  

Is that the Clarke Bridge?  Named after the famous arbitrator Clarke.

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Hello Jeanette……….  Jeanette, you there???  Anybody home???  We’re waiting to see when the next bull@#$& excuse surfaces.  Should we set our alarms for midnight tonight to see if the secret code opens the hidden vault that holds the resolution to this godforsaken horrific theft ridden system that determines our pay?  Waiting with baited breath.  

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D.B.Cooper — “we will have ALL of the answers to ALL of our question on this momentous day… Feb., 15, 2018… “

—  Did Mulder or Scully tell you that?

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Nostradamus. Hahahaha

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February 14, 2018 - 10:21 pm
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Okay, so I may have this wrong but I thought that after each party got their 30 (or 45) days to review the findings each party then submitted any comments back to the chairperson. The chairperson (also the lead industrial engineer) then has up to 90 days to present the final standards for implementation. Now I should probably go back and read the arbitration settlement again but I thought that the chairperson has the final say as to what exactly each standard is to be. So, depending on the USPS/NRLCA comments the chairperson could change or adjust some or all of the standards. That brings me to my point. Until the chairperson releases their final report (within 90 days) nobody’s going to know what the new standards really are.

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Charlie Brown said
Okay, so I may have this wrong but I thought that after each party got their 30 (or 45) days to review the findings each party then submitted any comments back to the chairperson. The chairperson (also the lead industrial engineer) then has up to 90 days to present the final standards for implementation. Now I should probably go back and read the arbitration settlement again but I thought that the chairperson has the final say as to what exactly each standard is to be. So, depending on the USPS/NRLCA comments the chairperson could change or adjust some or all of the standards. That brings me to my point. Until the chairperson releases their final report (within 90 days) nobody’s going to know what the new standards really are.  

You are correct. That puts us in the know by the end of May… about the time our contract ends.

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Where were the vows of secrecy???  I for one sure would have LOVED to see a *little* more transparency… why couldn’t we see what was initially proposed to both the USPS & NRLCA… and then seen what their comments were???  I mean, who’s paychecks will be dependent upon this way late fiasco…

And the above is just regarding the final recommendations… not even mentioning that MUCH more info could have, and should have been provided to us during the past 5 years or so… I guess we’re just supposed to pay our dues, and shut the hail up… take what we get, and like it…  is that how it works???  Confused

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This is OZ.  Jeanette has no intention of ever letting you see behind the curtain.  Has no intention of letting you know how hard, or not hard their comments were in fighting for us as a craft. They will be buried as deeply as their shovels will let them.  The only inevitable aspect of this study is the final result, which they will in turn blame totally on the engineers if it is not favorable, and say well, we had nothing to with it.  My attitude is show us exactly what you have done, what you have said, what you have recommended, and how you have clearly and thoroughly shown these engineers the fine inner workings of disparity in operations from one district to another.   When the APCU has anything they are fighting for within the clerk craft they update the membership, and give some level of transparency.  Our Duke St “leaders” have done ZERO except hide behind the curtain.

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