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Morty
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What happens now???

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Posted : May 21, 2018 6:12 am
btdtret
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Morty --  The 2015-2018 contract has expired -- what happens now?

--  Continue on like it did not expire.

--  No scheduled count to worry about, aside from the ever-present USPS option to hold a September count.

--  If the "negotiations" drag on so Mediation and / or Arbitration is needed, a possible 3-weak 2019 count could be bypassed, sort of like the non-scheduled 3-weak count in 2017.

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Posted : May 21, 2018 6:39 am
Lady Carrier
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NRLCA website says: "The United States Postal Service and the National Rural Letter Carriers’ Association (NRLCA) have agreed to extend contract negotiations on a new collective bargaining agreement."

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Posted : May 21, 2018 11:58 am
hunchback
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Lady Carrier said
NRLCA website says: "The United States Postal Service and the National Rural Letter Carriers’ Association (NRLCA) have agreed to extend contract negotiations on a new collective bargaining agreement."  

DAVE must have bent their ears about this since this is some information... not like the Engineering Study where there is No update... except the facts, scratch that, the logic we get from DAVE about how the Engineering Study will be the utopia that makes it all worth the wait

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Posted : May 21, 2018 12:46 pm
btdtret
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All -- "NRLCA website says: “The United States Postal Service and the National Rural Letter Carriers’ Association (NRLCA) have agreed to extend contract negotiations on a new collective bargaining agreement.”

--  Since the announcement / new items appears to be on USPS stationary, it would seem the USPS released the information and the NRLCA just reposted it on the NRLCA web site.

--  The usual give away is the last sentence:  "The Postal Service receives no tax dollars for operating expenses and relies on the sale of postage, products, and services to fund its operations."  Don't see why the NRLCA would include that if it was their news release.

--  At least the NRLCA could have said "We are close in negotiations." or "We are far apart."  Anything would have been something for the troops in the trenches.

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Posted : May 21, 2018 2:22 pm
Punkie5
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Since no contract, can we strike?  If not, stress leaves......this job has become a nightmare.

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Posted : May 21, 2018 2:26 pm
btdtret
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Punkie5 -- "Since no contract, can we strike? "

-- No -- carriers are supposed to carry on as though the contract was in effect.

--  Article 38, Section 2 - Duration - In part:

Unless otherwise provided, this Agreement shall be effective on April 25, 2016, and shall remain in full force and effect to and including 12 midnight May 20, 2018, and unless either party desires to terminate or modify it, for successive annual periods.

--  If the "nightmare" gets to much to handle, tell manglement you will be contacting the Employee Assistance Program because you are STRESSED OUT!

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Posted : May 21, 2018 2:43 pm
gotstamps
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Noble Member

Morty said
What happens now???  

Business as usual. Nothing changes & contract stands until a new one is agreed upon or arbitrated.

This is nothing new & happens at every contract. Sometimes it's only months past due & other times we go years before a Contract is passed (Arbitration). No spring counts, no annual raises, & no COLA raise. Schedule 3 RCAs will get their COLA raise in a few months but that's it.

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Posted : May 21, 2018 3:50 pm
D.B.Cooper
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btdtret said
All -- "NRLCA website says: “The United States Postal Service and the National Rural Letter Carriers’ Association (NRLCA) have agreed to extend contract negotiations on a new collective bargaining agreement.”

...
--  At least the NRLCA could have said "We are close in negotiations." or "We are far apart."  Anything would have been something for the troops in the trenches.  

My guess is, the truth is more like... we really haven't even started...  Confused

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Posted : May 21, 2018 4:04 pm
Surprise!
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Punkie5 said
Since no contract, can we strike?  If not, stress leaves......this job has become a nightmare.  

No, how about decertification?

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Posted : May 21, 2018 6:24 pm
Tooltime
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Trusted Member

Let’s see what ASSociation can give away for nothing this time.....maybe a new 3rd tier payscale for new hires!

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Posted : May 21, 2018 6:31 pm
uselesshasbeen
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Tooltime said
Let’s see what ASSociation can give away for nothing this time.....maybe a new 3rd tier payscale for new hires!  

If they keep adding tiers and not causing tears, eventually they will get what management everywhere desires.  People pay them to have a job.  I know someone is going to notice that that is describing a union, but sometimes it is hard to distinguish between the two.  Aren't the missions of both the same?

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Posted : May 21, 2018 7:00 pm
gotstamps
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Tooltime said
Let’s see what ASSociation can give away for nothing this time.....maybe a new 3rd tier payscale for new hires!  

The Table 2 was added by Arbitration in the previous contract. For RCAs, Table 4 was also added by Arbitration AND is actually a 3rd tier since Table 3 has had 2 tiers since 1991. JS

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Posted : May 21, 2018 9:36 pm
OutHereSomewhere
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gotstamps said

The Table 2 was added by Arbitration in the previous contract. For RCAs, Table 4 was also added by Arbitration AND is actually a 3rd tier since Table 3 has had 2 tiers since 1991. JS  

If that's meant in defense of the union, then it's not a good.  Not disputing that it came out of arbitration.  Just pointing out that you cited examples of the union losing in arbitration, over, and over, and over, and over......

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Posted : May 22, 2018 4:16 am
Morty
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Honorable Member

Table 3 starting@11.92 an hour retroactive to June 1999.

Is that our next great deal?😂

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Posted : May 22, 2018 7:51 am
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