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kdgauger
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The RCA was working the route on the regular rural carriers relief day.  The RCA was not able to complete the route.  Management ended up getting the regular rural carrier to complete the route.  Who gets paid what for that day?

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Posted : February 8, 2018 2:06 pm
dumbolehickfromms
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regular carrier gets full day's pay unless during Christmas OT period and can be deemed as assistance.

regular also get full EMA if on a POV route.

RCA gets actual time and mileage for the time they were at work.

Google F 21 partial trip

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Posted : February 8, 2018 2:10 pm
f gump
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The regular gets the evaluation and the RCA gets paid for hours worked.

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Posted : February 8, 2018 2:14 pm
kdgauger
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I was referred to F-21:

581.5 Replacement Carrier - Partial Trip Served
When a replacement carrier becomes ill or cannot finish the route while on
duty, the carrier is paid on PS Form 1314-A for actual hours worked and any
EMA. The replacement carrier filling in will be paid for actual hours worked
and any EMA.

Even though the replacement carrier was the regular rural carrier for this route, according to F-21 the regular rural carrier is only entitled to actual time and EMA and not evaluated time and EMA.  I have not found anything specifically covering the situation where the regular rural carrier completed the route.

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Posted : February 11, 2018 11:13 am
Morty
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If you got a cell phone, there's this button called ignore. Use it.

We are not on call.

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Posted : February 11, 2018 11:29 am
gotstamps
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kdgauger said
I was referred to F-21:

581.5 Replacement Carrier - Partial Trip Served
When a replacement carrier becomes ill or cannot finish the route while on
duty, the carrier is paid on PS Form 1314-A for actual hours worked and any
EMA. The replacement carrier filling in will be paid for actual hours worked
and any EMA.

Even though the replacement carrier was the regular rural carrier for this route, according to F-21 the regular rural carrier is only entitled to actual time and EMA and not evaluated time and EMA.  I have not found anything specifically covering the situation where the regular rural carrier completed the route.  

Since a Regular carrier CANNOT be paid for partial trips (hourly), the Regular carrier gets a full day. If they are on the RDWL, then an R, 3, or 5, carrier's choice. Otherwise it's a 3 for the day. 

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Posted : February 11, 2018 11:46 am
Charlie Brown
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gotstamps said

Since a Regular carrier CANNOT be paid for partial trips (hourly), the Regular carrier gets a full day. If they are on the RDWL, then an R, 3, or 5, carrier's choice. Otherwise it's a 3 for the day.   

Sorry gotstamps but a regular CAN be paid for a partial trip.

In this case I believe that the regular should have been paid for the hours actually worked at their O/T rate. I base this on the fact that when a regular works their "relief day" and can not complete the route they are then paid hourly at their O/T rate. I realize it's not the regular that can not complete the route but it seems to be applicable in this scenario.

See article 9     "If a regular rural carrier works the relief day and fails to complete the entire route the carrier will be compensated 150% of the carriers hourly rate of pay for the actual number of hours worked"

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Posted : February 11, 2018 12:38 pm
gotstamps
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Charlie Brown said

Sorry gotstamps but a regular CAN be paid for a partial trip.

In this case I believe that the regular should have been paid for the hours actually worked at their O/T rate. I base this on the fact that when a regular works their "relief day" and can not complete the route they are then paid hourly at their O/T rate. I realize it's not the regular that can not complete the route but it seems to be applicable in this scenario.

See article 9     "If a regular rural carrier works the relief day and fails to complete the entire route the carrier will be compensated 150% of the carriers hourly rate of pay for the actual number of hours worked"  

Ok. Forgot about that one but it could be argued that it doesn't apply here since the Regular was called to relieve the sub instead of the other way around as this was intended. When a sub is called to complete a route when the Regular is working & goes home, the sub gets the full day regardless as to whether the Reg is working OT or a normal day. I believe it can be argued that thesub is to be hourly and the Reg should get the full day of appropriate OT. Stronger the case would be if the Reg carried the route or at least 1/2 or more.

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Posted : February 11, 2018 12:55 pm
Rt2mailman
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There is no code to pay a regular called in, on a relief day, for a partial day of pay. There is a code for a regular who is unable to finish the route on a day that they are working their relief day but unable to finish. The regular called in gets full day of pay, code 3 or 5, RCA gets paid for hours they worked and supervisor gets in trouble for not splitting the last part of the route or finishing it himself.

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Posted : February 11, 2018 2:14 pm
kdgauger
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Thanks everyone.  I ran this by the district steward yesterday and was informed that the regular rural carrier gets hours at 150% for working on their relief day and the EMA for their mileage.  Management has been back-tracking on this incident.  The regular rural carrier informed management that they wanted to get paid for the day if they worked their relief day.  As gotstamps indicated, if a regular rural carrier cannot finish the route then the replacement carrier gets paid for the day.  The opposite side of the coin seems to be if the RCA doesn't finish the route and the regular rural carrier finishes the route, the RCA gets paid for their hours and mileage (EMA) and the regular rural carrier gets paid for the day.  It was originally submitted this way.  The PM got a call from district about this incident.  So management started back-tracking.  Management then told the regular rural carrier that they were NOT getting paid for the hours/day but the RCA was getting paid for the day.  And management wanted the RCA to split their pay with the regular rural carrier.  Management and the carrier could not reach a solution so a Step 1 grievance is in the process.  The regular rural carrier wants to get paid for the day but may have to settle for hours*150% and EMA for their mileage.  Since this incident, I was called to work my route on my relief day since my RCA got sick (flu) after reporting to work.  Management couldn't find another RCA that was available to run my route.  My RCA had cased the mail but had not started on the route.  It was my understanding that my RCA would get paid for their time and I would get paid evaluated time and the route's EMA.  But if I get paid hours*150% for working on my relief day, I will get paid more than evaluated time.  Now we will see how I get paid  😉

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Posted : February 12, 2018 9:35 am
btdtret
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kdgauger -- " And management wanted the RCA to split their pay with the regular rural carrier. "

--  Boy [ ooops, to be PC, make that PERSON ]... THAT would be nice to have on a tape recording ( although highly illegal, unfortunately )!  And if not a recording, several carriers willing to swear they heard manglement say that.

--  Someone in the office needs to drop a line to NRLCA HQ with the details and suggestion HQ get something in writing to cover that situation as, no doubt, it won't be the last occurrence.

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Posted : February 12, 2018 4:11 pm
Rt2mailman
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Kdgauger, Your "district steward" is wrong, in my opinion. Regulars called in to work their relief day can only be paid in whole days and the full EMA for the route, unless they are giving assistance during the Christmas overtime period. There is no way to pay them for a partial day unless that regular was unable to finish the route for some reason. The only reason that an RCA gets paid for the whole day when a regular goes home sick or some other emergency, is because regulars only are allowed to take leave in full day increments, therefore if the regular takes leave it is for the full day, and the RCA gets the full day of pay for the route. If a regular gets sick while working their relief day, they can not take leave because they can't take leave on their K day, therefore they get paid 150% for the hours they worked. The reason your managers are "backtracking" is because they are finding out there is no way to pay the regular except in "full day" increments. When they don't know what to do they come up with ridiculous ideas like "We'll pay the RCA and you get the money from them". Hopefully when the grievance gets up to your assistant steward they will have researched it enough to represent it properly.

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Posted : February 12, 2018 5:42 pm




  
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