rca vs ptf  

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Howdy, I am the only rca in a small office that has only two rural K routes, both with different days off.


I've been working both routes for the last 2 years as an rca because it's impossible to get someone hired. 


I've been told that they may convert me from an rca, to a ptf, and I would be permanently responsible for both routes, as a career employee. 


I'm wondering what the difference would be from what I'm doing now. Benefits vs costs of becoming a part-time career employee 

Posted : August 17, 2018 1:20 pm
Prominent Member

You get bennies.

Posted : August 17, 2018 2:48 pm
Reputable Member

To expand...

- insurance is better,
- you are career which establishes a date to calculate retirement from,
- you are earning leave for every hour worked (both annual and sick) no matter the route within the office (I am not sure how it works outside of the home office if even allowed..another vague point of our contract),
- step increases in pay on a scheduled basis,
- TSP/pension contributions,
- possibility exists to apply for internal EAS career positions with a quibble over what constitutes a higher level assignment (some will tell you it is not allowed, but some will tell you its totally allowed, career is career)
- you are career, so if there was ever a reduction in force, your employment status with a career date as a PTF might protect you over a career carrier 20 miles away who was made career after you (another point that is probably not technically correct, but should be corrected based on principle).

As a PTF you still don't realistically count in the eyes of the association even if obligated on paper and word to represent you, as they will let everyone have their way with you because of vagaries in the contract regarding the employment status, but you will at least get something for your trouble.

Posted : August 17, 2018 3:13 pm
Famed Member

Adie -- What is your hire date?

-- In your particular situation, becoming a PTF should result in an increase in hourly pay. PTF's have their own pay schedule which is found at the bottom of Table ONE and TWO.

-- Leave ( annual and sick ) will be earned based on the number of hours worked on your K routes. Leave is granted in one hour increments. Article 10.6.

-- No paid holidays. Those are for regular carriers. Article 11.1.

-- When either of K route regular retires, you will get that route. Article 12.C.d -- in part: In no instance will a part-time flexible rural carrier have the right to refuse conversion to regular rural carrier.

-- On the other hand, if either or both K routes become J routes, your PTF position will be terminated since PTF's serve only K routes.

-- Do a word search of the contract for "part-time flexible" to see possible assignments -- if you were in a larger office.

-- Any other post offices in the vicinity you could farm yourself out to?

Posted : August 17, 2018 3:52 pm
Honorable Member

The routes in your office are in protected status if you become PTF. They cannot be cut to H or J, but must remain K.

You'll make $20+ /hr for the same job.

Someone can correct me if wrong, but when going full time, you stay at your step and dont start at $19/hr.

You'll need to convince your regs to put in for 120 day letters, something I could not convince mine to do ultimately screwing me over.

Posted : August 17, 2018 8:34 pm
Reputable Member

If you convert to regular, you do retain your step level. You have the same benefits as a regular, except Holidays. If you have military time, you can buy it back to be applied towards retirement. The conversion is a no brainer. Take it.

Posted : August 18, 2018 5:27 am
Noble Member

The routes in office are not actually protected from falling below K but would be removed from your string if one or both did & with only 2 routes in your string, there’s no other routes to replace the J/H route. Same thing happens if one of your route carriers is out for an extended period for illness or injury as a PTF cannot “hold-down” a route or Aux. Do look up PTF in the contract.
Also, although TECHNICALLY your not paid Holiday Pay BUT it is built into the PTF pay-scale. You also start earning Step Raises & will maintain that Step upon going Regular.
A PTF position is a BID position through LITEBLUE and if you do not bid, the position goes to district bidding where another sub elsewhere can take the position. I’m not certain how that would work as there would be nowhere for you to go as mgmt has the right to change a sub’s Primary in order to have a PTF-string if necessary.
A PTF goes Regular prior to an RCA regardless of seniority. If you want to go Regular, bid if it comes up.

Posted : August 18, 2018 5:36 am


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